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    Poll confirms Vander Plaats is GOP front-runner (updated)

    by: desmoinesdem

    Wed Jul 15, 2009 at 11:32:10 AM CDT


    The Iowa Republican blog continues to release results from the poll it commissioned on the 2010 governor's race. Last week we learned about Governor Chet Culver's approval, favorability and re-elect numbers. This week we've seen some numbers about same-sex marriage and a hypothetical rerun of the 2006 race. I'll have more to say about the wording of this poll's questions in a future post. (Todd Dorman identified a glaring problem with the marriage question here.)

    In today's installment, Craig Robinson highlights results from a straightforward question:

    Question: If the Republican primary for Governor was held today, who would you vote for between Chris Rants, Bob Vander Plaats, Paul McKinley, Rod Roberts, Jerry Behn, and Christian Fong?

       Republican Primary Voters

       Bob Vander Plaats: 46%
       Don't Know: 27%
       Chris Rants: 14%
       Neither/Other: 5%
       Paul McKinley: 3%
       Christian Fong: 3%
       Rod Roberts: 1%
       Refused: 1%
       Jerry Behn: 0.2%

       (Republican Primary Voters N=394 - Margin of Error ±5.0%)

    Join me after the jump for some early thoughts about Bob Vander Plaats' front-runner status.

    desmoinesdem :: Poll confirms Vander Plaats is GOP front-runner (updated)
    Vander Plaats brings a lot of advantages to the GOP primary race. He is the only currently declared Republican candidate who has campaigned statewide before, during the 2002 primaries and as the GOP nominee for lieutenant governor in 2006. Vander Plaats kept in contact with many Republican activists by chairing Mike Huckabee's presidential campaign in Iowa. Also, Vander Plaats has held far more public events around the state this year than any other Republican candidate.

    Robinson correctly notes that Vander Plaats' huge lead in this poll stems from his much greater name recognition among Iowa Republicans. John Deeth is ready to celebrate:

    We won't even need my convention scenario; they're ready to nominate Vander Plaats outright. He's near 50% and the Not Vander Plaats vote is splintered. All Gay Marriage All The Time will turn off moderates and Culver wins comfortably.

    If the GOP unites, quickly, behind one non-BVP candidate, that candidate might pull it off, but do they even want to?

    Not so fast, Deeth. The Republican primary is more than 10 months away. At a comparable time during the last election cycle, Hillary Clinton had commanding poll leads over other Democratic presidential contenders nationally and in every state but Iowa. Several factors derailed the Clinton inevitability train. She was known to be a polarizing figure, sparking fear among many Democrats that she would lose the general election. Barack Obama was an unusually gifted candidate who raised a ton of money to build a phenomenally successful organization. John Edwards went hard negative on Clinton in the fall of 2007, generating a lot of unflattering media coverage of the front-funner.

    Just as Clinton and her Democratic rivals had similar positions on most issues, the potential Republican candidates for Iowa governor all back the same economic and social agenda. They support tax cuts, spending cuts and an amendment to ban same-sex marriage; they oppose state borrowing, abortion rights and any legislation backed by labor unions.

    With no clear distinction on the issues, other Republicans will need to show Vander Plaats is a poor candidate and/or would be a poor governor in order to overcome his early advantage in the primary.

    The Iowa Republican will publish results tomorrow on how Culver fared head to head against Vander Plaats and Chris Rants in its poll. I know Democrats have done internal polling this year, but I haven't seen any of the results. I can tell you that I don't know a single Iowa Democrat who thinks Vander Plaats would have a chance against Culver.

    I'm curious to see who will be the first Republican to question out loud whether Vander Plaats can win the general. Lately Iowa Republicans have focused on happy talk about Culver's sinking popularity and the public supposedly backing the GOP on all the important issues. Krusty Konservative's take today is typical:

    I don't care who Iowa Republicans nominate, the general election campaign will be about one thing and one thing only, the job Chet Culver has done as the state's Governor. Deeth is 100% right about one thing: people's rage is always targeted to the person at the top. So if we are still dealing with huge budget deficits, unbalanced budgets, additional budget cuts, a bad economy, and a high unemployment rate, Governor Culver is going to have to deal with it.

    The piss poor condition of our state is Chet Culver's unpopular war so to speak. What should disturb Democrats like Deeth is Culver's insistence that everything is hunky-dory. It's not. People are hurting all across Iowa, and Culver's agenda will make it worse.

    I don't give a rip who Culver brings in to turn things around politically. The hole Culver has dug is just too vast. I doubt that there is any chance he can manage to get himself out of it before next November.

    If Republican primary voters believe Culver will lose no matter what, they may as well nominate Vander Plaats. He's the most familiar candidate, and he says things they want to hear. He will stop gay marriage on day one as governor by issuing an executive order. He promises that Republicans can win in Iowa again by embracing "bold-color conservatism."

    Who in the Republican field will dare to point out that Culver brings a lot of advantages to this race and might not be so easy to beat?

    Some Republicans have argued that same-sex marriage can't be overturned by executive order, but they'll need to make this case a lot more forcefully to bring down Vander Plaats in the primary. It's not going to cut it to say an executive order would be a waste of time or lead to a dead end legally. Vander Plaats claims,

    ''I've got constitutional lawyers that back me up,'' he said.

    When asked to identify them, he named former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, former U.S. House Speaker Newt Gingrich of Georgia and Herb Titus, a Virginia attorney. He did not name any Iowans.

    ''My belief is that marriage is clearly reserved for one man and one woman,'' he said. ''I believe government grew out of marriage. Marriage didn't grow out of government.''

    For the record: Huckabee and Gingrich are not attorneys. Herb Titus was the Constitution Party's vice presidential candidate in 1996. Most legal scholars reject the idea that a governor can overturn a Supreme Court ruling, although Titus is renowned among conservative Christians who make Steve King look reasonable by comparison.

    Like I said, Vander Plaats is telling socially conservative Republicans what they want to hear. They don't like gay marriage, and he can put a stop to it. He's so confident that this is a winning message that he told Jeff Charis-Carlson of the Iowa City Press-Citizen, "I'm betting my whole campaign on that executive order."

    To cut into Vander Plaats' early lead, someone needs to tell Republican voters hard truths. Culver is not as vulnerable as some people suggest and could win against the wrong GOP candidate. By his own admission, Vander Plaats would provoke a constitutional crisis by issuing an executive order to halt same-sex marriages.

    Share any thoughts about the governor's race in this thread.

    UPDATE: The Iowa Republican published these results on Thursday:

       Question: If the elections for Governor were held today, and the candidates were Bob Vander Plaats and Chet Culver, who would you vote for between Bob Vander Plaats, the Republican candidate and Chet Culver, the Democratic candidate?

       Chet Culver: 48%
       Vander Plaats: 39%
       Neither/Won't Vote: 3%
       Don't Know: 10%
       Refused: 1%

       Question: If the elections for Governor were held today, and the candidates were Chris Rants and Chet Culver, who would you vote for between Chris Rants, the Republican candidate and Chet Culver, the Democratic candidate?

       Chet Culver: 46%
       Chris Rants: 36%
       Neither/Won't Vote: 3%
       Don't Know: 13%
       Refused: 1%

    It looks like Culver is about 10 points ahead of a generic R candidate. As an incumbent, you'd always like to be above 50 percent, but Culver is in a stronger position than many other incumbent governors.

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    Go Vander Plaats (4.00 / 1)
    This would essentially assure Culver, despite his numerous flaws, a second term. But I'm not so sure Iowa's GOP is ready to coronate and get behind Bobby VP. There's a reason they went shopping for Nussle when VP threw his name into the mix early on last time. In a general election, Iowans won't buy into VP's socially conservative politics. People are hurting too much financially and it's only going to get worse in the next year (not good for Culver though) to be distracted by gay marriage and a wingnut who wants to use his power to usurp one of the three branches of the Iowa Constitution.

    Once again, if VP gets the nod, we will have yet another election, which will be won by voting against a candidate in lieu of voting for one. Ho hum....

    Where's Sal when we need him?

    "For every political action, there is an equal but opposite satiric reaction." Political Fallout: http://www.political-fallout.blogspot.com/


    Yeah, (4.00 / 2)
    everybody, put on a Team BVP t-shirt and scare up support.

    I am not surprised that BVP is rolling the dice on marriage equality. Let's look at some numbers. 2008 GOP Caucus: over 70% 45+ and about 120K turnout. The electorate doesn't get any better if you're a grassroots social conservative, yet, Huckabee doesn't break 35. 2002 GOP primary: 200K participants, with BVP as the 'change' candidate, but doesn't break 32% in a 3-way. Since 2000: the 65+ share has declined in 66 IA counties. So yes, to get to the convention, or to outright win, excite the base.

    It's not worthwhile to discuss this poll. I've missed the turnout projection and associated demographics (if revealed, please enlighten). There's almost a year to go.

    Like tmlindsey, I don't believe the IA-GOP is interested in a BVP coronation. Bigger fish to fry, starting with the future of the IA Caucus. A BVP nom is a clear signal to skip IA and go directly to NH.

    Prior to becoming the darling of social conservatives, Palin had very good press as a reformer who worked with both parties. Do a search pre-VP announcement. AP, Salon -- all golden. Now she's trying to muddle back to that by downplaying partisanship and emphasizing fiscal issues. That should tell the base something.

    The template for the future of the GOP is the '02 election of a RINO/minority for MD-Gov. Broaden appeal. Show tolerance, less rigidity. Acknowledge the demographics of the electorate. This is how you penetrate solid-D territory, and if there's a wave of dissatisfaction with the opposition, you might even squeak by.

    Matt Strawn isn't getting press as an up-and-comer for delivering BVP.

    If I were a GOP strategist in Iowa ...

    In 2010, focus on rebuilding and replenishment. Winning the gov spot is secondary. Ensure the viability of the presidential caucus in years to come. Fong would be my guy.

    1. Build-up of youth (under 29) registration desperately needed. That's what a 99-county tour is for.

    2. Let's say for the sake of argument that marriage equality threatens the family structure and Iowa values.

    I spend more time than most in smaller-town rural and conservative areas. I don't care if it's upstate NY, MD, PA, IA ... the #1 issue people talk to you about is the younger generation leaving and the future of small town life.

    Marriage equality is an abstract threat for most, but the brain drain is not -- it's real and immediate. Send Fong with a message of rejuvenation, and you might even reorient some fraction of the base.

    I've actually had the opportunity to talk to a lot of older, and I suspect GOP-voting (by what they say) Iowans lately. Is it a coincidence that every one is involved in some form of youth outreach? Perhaps it's because the sample is limited and self-selecting (Iowans interested in meeting outsiders), but I'm willing to bet that there's a meaningful fraction of older voters who will prioritize revitalization -- enough to cut into BVP's margins.

    3. If you  look at '08 turnout relative to '04, 70%+ of the variation is accounted for by population drift. More than half the counties actually cast fewer ballots for pres in '08. Simply, the GOP needs to gear up in places like DSM Metro, Linn, Pottawattamie, and expand in Dallas, meaning wealthier MWC (married w/ children) precincts.

    4. Asian-Americans have a tepid turnout history, and this is certainly true in IA. Outreach has the potential of adding up to 1% plus Asian-Americans are the fastest-growing minority group in IA. Bonus -- in major counties, Chinese is the #1 sub-group.

    Of course, I'm not a GOP strategist in IA ...


    you make it so complicated (4.00 / 2)
    with your population drift this and your growing demographic group that. But "The conclusion is rather simple. Iowa Republicans need to nominate a smart and likable candidate."

    Seriously, the Iowa GOP needed you in 1999-2005. They lost a lot of years when they could have been rebuilding and rejuvenating. After 30 years of GOP governors, they figured Vilsack's election in 1998 was just a fluke due to Lightfoot being such a bad candidate. Then when Vilsack and Harkin both won re-election by pretty big margins in 2002, a bad year for Democrats nationwide, they blamed Gross and Ganske for being too moderate and/or too Des Moines-centric.

    They were reassured by Bush carrying the state in 2004 and figured Nussle would be very strong in 2006 with his base in eastern Iowa (also, they thought Culver was dumb). They didn't put much together in the way of youth outreach or early voting or the things the Iowa Democratic Party had been working on for years. Several state party chairmen did very little to lay the groundwork for future statewide election victories.

    I don't dispute that many Republican strategists think BVP is a general election loser. It's telling that Strawn hasn't been emphasizing the marriage issue and Ed Failor is behind Fong.

    But my hunch is that the majority of Republican activists/primary voters feel like Krusty: Chet's dumb, we're in the worst recession we've had in 30 years, and Republicans are going to win this in a walk. They are in no mood to take the long view you are sensibly advocating. They are in for a rude awakening of BVP is the nominee.

    Invite other Iowa political junkies to join us at Bleeding Heartland.


    [ Parent ]
    krusty kudos (4.00 / 2)
    are due for employing KISS. Nevertheless, BVP v Culver = kraptastic. What on earth will we blog about??

    Chet's dumb

    Can't be. He's a graduate of MD-MCPS, which produces the nation's finest minds, strongest leaders, and mmm, let me see, really likable people!


    [ Parent ]
    Fantasy GOP stragetist (4.00 / 2)
    This fantasy GOP strategist thing is fun! You should make a diary out of it.

    I think all yours are very good ideas.

    To #1 I would add--make sure to visit every college and community college campus they can. Of course, visiting say Grinnell College is riskier than visiting Grinnell Senior Center, but you don't win if you don't take some risks.

    To #3 I would add Johnson and Scott Counties. Personally, it seems to me that Fong would be the best candidate to reach those groups.

    Now, if I were an Iowa GOP activist:

    1. College outreach: I would target college students, equating Culver's budget mismanagement with tuition increases and college budget cuts.

    2. SE Iowa: I would target economically hard hit SE Iowa, using an "are you better off now" argument (more on this to come). I would also try to use the Des Moines vs. everyone else argument. Things like "How does spending millions for a railroad to Des Moines help bring jobs back to Ft. Madison?"

    3. "Are you better off?": I would hit Culver hard on this point. Culver = recession. Not exactly true, not exactly fair, completely Machiavellian--but it works.

    4.Culver = Fat Cat: Make Culver out to be an elitist. Look, his wife smokes in state vehicles--they think they're above the law! Look, he flies down to Florida to stay at Bill Knapp's condo--when's the last time you got to take a vacation?! Look, he went to the Masters in the middle of the legislative session--do you get to pick up and leave your job like that?!


    [ Parent ]
    we can all be grateful (4.00 / 1)
    ragbrai08 is not on the other side of the aisle.

    Invite other Iowa political junkies to join us at Bleeding Heartland.

    [ Parent ]
    I've always (4.00 / 1)
    thought your instincts are pretty good. We should team up and form a consulting group. Isn't that the way it works these days -- a Real Iowan and some shady type from DC?



    [ Parent ]
    Chicago is also a source (0.00 / 0)
    for slick partners of Iowa political consultants, but DC will do as well.

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    [ Parent ]
    regarding SE Iowa (0.00 / 0)
    Miller-Meeks' strong showing in some of those counties indicates that Republicans have room to grow there. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if the unemployment rate in those counties were higher than the statewide average.

    However, by next summer and fall a heck of a lot of stimulus and I-JOBS money will have been spent on projects in each of those counties. Not a single one of those projects would be happening if Republicans were running the show. That's Culver's answer to pegging him to the recession.

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    [ Parent ]
    regarding IA evangelical conservatives (0.00 / 0)
    Are you sure they are most strongly represented in the seniors demographic?

    For some reason I have this idea that mainline Protestants are a higher proportion of Iowa senior citizens than of middle-aged Iowans. Lots of people raised in mainline denominations have switched to evangelical churches, even though their parents remain affiliated with the mainline churches.

    I certainly know a lot of older lifelong Republicans who are mainline Protestants. Maybe the BVP base is more middle-aged than senior. Just something I've been thinking about.

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    [ Parent ]
    I don't make that assumption (0.00 / 0)
    I think evangelicals are a more diverse group than what most imagine at first glance. However, by rolling the dice on this executive order, I have to assume that BVP is targeting older voters, and the seniors are most likely to be amenable to his message.

    What we do know is that Huckabee got about the same fraction (31%/30%) from each (45-64,65+) age cohort. 60% of caucus attendees identified as born-again or Evangelical Christian but only 46% voted Huckabee. Evangelicals don't appear to speak with one voice in IA.

    switched to evangelical churches

    I am guessing that the people you know, or are aware of, are more affluent and suburban. I know people like that here. They are motivated by two things: social and business networking. They are all over the map, politically, in terms of priorities. Middle-aged voters are still working and investing, so I don't see BVP domination around the marriage issue, do you?

    It's in the upper midwest that Obama performed best amongst evangelicals (skewing younger). Outside of IL, his best numbers (low 30s) were in IA & MN, IIRC. I don't see the evidence that overturning marriage equality will attract these voters in large numbers, either.

    I read an article by a Carroll County journalist (Burns?) a few weeks ago: Vander Plaats and Behn pondering the issue of criminalizing women for having abortions. "I really have to think this over," said Vander Plaats. Can they hear themselves? Who are they talking to?

    mainline Protestants are a higher proportion of Iowa senior citizens than of middle-aged Iowans.

    That could well be (I don't know either way), but I don't think you have to be evangelical/born-again to be socially conservative. In fact, I think BVP is trying to unite disparate elements under his one-issue banner, but this issue really skews to older voters who had their say and their day ca. 2002-2004.

    This is from an older (2003) Pew study:


    The greater opposition to gay marriage among older Americans reflects this greater uncertainty and lack of familiarity more than it does any moral or religious opposition to the idea.
    In fact, people over age 65 are no more likely to cite moral or religious reasons than are younger respondents when asked to explain why they oppose gay marriage. Instead, older generations tend to explain their position either in reference to the definition of marriage being between a man and a woman or for the purposes of having children, or with vague references to homosexuality just being wrong or not normal.

    And the voters who felt this way back in '03 are on the decline.  

    BTW, one thing I am assuming is that BVP ran on a traditional values-oriented platform in 2002 -- if that's not the case, please inform. I still have a lot to learn about the GOP in IA. I also have a question. Rants holds a house seat, right? Is he permitted to run for both a house seat/gov in the primary? I assume no, since you've mentioned that King running for gov would be a good way to get rid of him.

    p.s. yes, I'm still in MD. Have a meeting on Mon & will only make the last 1/2 of RAGBRAI. Traded my full pass for a couple of day passes & for one day, I'll have to be what they call a "bandit." Not saying which day, as I don't want to land up in jail with Elton.

     


    [ Parent ]
    BVP was a values candidate in 2002 (0.00 / 0)
    Nothing has changed, except that gay marriage is more salient now that it happens to be legal.

    As far as I know, Rants has to give up his House seat if he stays in the governor's race. However, I don't remember when the filing deadline is (March 15?). He could run for the House again if he bails early from the governor's race.

    I think that ever since they voted him out as Republican leader in the Iowa House, it's been less appealing for him to stay there. Even if they take back the majority in 2010, Kraig Paulsen will be calling the shots.

    Regarding Huckabee, I think his support among evangelicals was held down by the perception that he had raised taxes and supported immigration. Club for Growth ran ads against him on taxes, supporters of other candidates claimed he was for amnesty, and so on. BVP doesn't have that kind of baggage.

    Invite other Iowa political junkies to join us at Bleeding Heartland.


    [ Parent ]
    baggage (0.00 / 0)
    he can't beat "Debt Culver," and everyone knows it.


    [ Parent ]
    but that's my point (0.00 / 0)
    "everyone" knows BVP would lose the general, except for a large portion of the Republican base. They are very confident that any Republican has a good shot at beating Culver.

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    [ Parent ]
    no rest (0.00 / 0)
    until questions get answered ...


    Pew: US Religious Landscape Survey. This is national, so pending any discovery of factors unique to IA ...

    Mainline is a bit older on average, but not by much. They key difference is that Evangelicals are less white (81%) compared to Mainline (91%), which probably accounts for the age shift. The age distribution across religious traditions is fairly uniform.

    Here is a big born-again outfit in my area. Look at the pic. We seek to reflect the rich diversity of our city by being an ethnically and generationally diverse church.

    If you look at Fong's church (River of Life, Cedar Rapids), same thing: trendy, diverse, both ethnically and generationally. No link, b/c a talking pastor is in a pop-up. The Evangelicals/born-again are far more aggressive, in general, about outreach/ministries to immigrants, etc.

    BVP is really talking to the Pat Robertson wing. I would put 'middle-age' somewhere in the middle in terms of political outlook, beliefs, etc.

    The job of candidate Fong is to engage a slice of the Pat Robertson wing -- doesn't have to dominate, just a slice. He's got the material: father chased out of homeland for being a Christian/landowner, names his son Christian ... only in America, etc. The key to long-term survival vs. atrophy/drain is in the tolerance of differences to rejuvenate community.

    "everyone" knows BVP would lose the general, except for a large portion of the Republican base. They are very confident that any Republican has a good shot at beating Culver.

    You don't think this will get pointed out?


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