Obama supporters, what's your excuse for this?

Barack Obama apparently wants conservative Republicans to serve in his cabinet, possibly in some of the most important jobs:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/t…

Obama is hoping to appoint cross-party figures to his cabinet such as Chuck Hagel, the Republican senator for Nebraska and an opponent of the Iraq war, and Richard Lugar, leader of the Republicans on the Senate foreign relations committee.

Senior advisers confirmed that Hagel, a highly decorated Vietnam war veteran and one of McCain’s closest friends in the Senate, was considered an ideal candidate for defence secretary. Some regard the outspoken Republican as a possible vice-presidential nominee although that might be regarded as a “stretch”.

I would hope that even the most fanatical Obama supporter could acknowledge what a terrible, horrible, no good, very bad idea it would be for Obama to choose a conservative Republican as VP. Hagel and Lugar have voted to confirm every judge George W. Bush has appointed. Having someone like that a heartbeat away from the presidency is just an invitation to some conservative nutjob to take a shot at Obama.

Furthermore, Obama has been a long-term smoker and could easily get lung cancer or some other kind of cancer. No Republican should be his VP.

I also have real problems with the idea of Hagel or Lugar in an important cabinet job like secretary of state or defense. Basically that reinforces the false right-wing stereotype that Democrats cannot be trusted to handle security and foreign policy issues.

We have plenty of highly capable Democrats who would do a great job as secretary of state or defense.

If Obama needs to prove he’s bipartisan, he should pick some moderate Republican for a low-profile cabinet post. No hacks who’ve voted with Bush 90-plus percent of the time in the Senate, and no Republicans for the top-level cabinet positions.

Chris Bowers has more on this:

http://www.openleft.com/showDi…

I particularly agree with this part:

Obama sends out regular signals that he will govern in a very centrist fashion. Running Harry and Louise ads and appointing Bush Dog Jim Cooper as a spokesperson on health care make that obvious enough. His praise of Reagan and bragging that he is more bipartisan than the DLC also make that clear. He has no problem letting you know that he’s “not one of those people who cynically believes Bush went in only for the oil,” that he isn’t a “anti-military, 70s love-in.” He scolds unknown progressives for thinking that “every mention of God is automatically threatening a theocracy,” and reminded everyone that Social Security faces a crisis. Now, he is sending out signals that will be appoint Chuck Hagel and Richard Lugar to incredibly powerful posts such as Secretary of State and Secretary of Defense.

Here is the thing: what counter-indications had Obama given that he will govern as a progressive? I honestly can’t think of any[….]

Outside of telecom policy, his policy platforms are pretty much center-left wonkish boilerplate, and his rhetoric is straight down the middle. In short, I just don’t see Obama as a transformative progressive at all.

If I am missing something, I don’t know where to look for it. Chuck Hagel as Sec Def is just the latest indication that Obama is more about placating High Broderism, Tim Russert and the Washington Post editorial board than he is about transformative progressive change. I’ll work hard to help elect him, but I also don’t intend to delude myself about what to expect when he becomes President.  

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  • No excuse needed

    Well, maybe a bit.  I agree you on the VP issue.  With the unity ticket theme, Bloomberg would be about as far as I would be willing to go with Obama’s VP choice.  It should still be a Democratic ticket.

    But related to SOS or SOD, I believe he has been talking about this for as long as he has been running for president.  That should not be news to anyone at this point.  Personally, I think it would be a great idea to have an R either as SOS or SOD.  National defense and foreign relations are areas where there should be no room for partisanship.  Having an R in such a position would have many benefits, especially when R congressional support may be needed.  Also, cabinet members work for the president and at his/her pleasure, so Obama would still be calling the shots.  And if he were to only appoint an R to some minor post (nothing new there), his calls for true partisanship would ring hollow. – Bottom line, no matter what he does with this, someone will be unhappy.

    Overall, I think any administration would greatly benefit from having a member of the other party in a high, trusted position.  On important matters, the president should hear honest opinions from outside his/her own political party silo.

    • if Obama is against the war in Iraq

      why on earth would he even consider Hagel or Lugar for posts like defense or state? They have marched in lockstep with Bush on every single Iraq vote.

      This confirms my suspicion that Obama is not really as anti-war as his supporters make him out to be.

      The Republicans have been bashing Democrats as incompetent to handle security and foreign policy issues for decades. It would be idiotic to reinforce that meme by putting an R in charge of those portfolios. There are other cabinet positions where Obama could appoint a moderate Republican.

      • I pretty much agree with RF again

        This shouldn’t be news.  He has talked about being post-partisan in the past and that is part of the reason a lot of Democrats have come to him.  He’s not afraid to acknowledge our party’s weaknesses and to cross bridges to build political capital.  

        It also shouldn’t be a surprise that Obama is not really anti-war.  He is not anti-war.  He his anti-dumb wars, such as Iraq.  Again, this is something he has said over and over.  You can’t be anti-war and the Commander in Chief of the world’s dominant military – that’s a ticket to a failed Presidency.  This is where Obama’s point on judgment comes from and why he focuses on it rather than “toughness”, which we should by now have learned does not suit our party well when we try to end wars.  It’s difficult to be tough and anti-war, but you can have good judgment and end wars.    

        I think it is a good idea to surround oneself not with yes men/women, but with people you respect who will make you better at what you do.  I think that has been a point Obama has made and a reason why he claims post-partisanship.

        It may frustrate some people who want to see an ultra left President with a Democratic majority (because then we could really give it to Republicans on the chin), but Obama wants to see our country regain much of what it has lost in the last eight years in terms of its image in the world and at home.  

        After two very bitter elections, I think our country is overdue for some healing.  Obama recognizes this and has made it important to his candidacy.

        • he's not anti-Iraq War

          if he entertains the idea of putting a pro-war conservative Republican in charge of state or DOD.

          How have Hagel or Lugar shown the good “judgment” on Iraq? They have never voted against Bush on anything related to Iraq, ever. They voted for the AUMF, which you cite as a reason why you’d never trust Hillary.

          Obama is playing you for a fool.

  • For Pete's sake...

    They were floating the same type of rumors about John McCain a few weeks ago, saying that he would pick Joe Lieberman as his Def Sec.

    You really shouldn’t put much stock in these kinds of rumors and wild speculations that pop up around this time in every campaign cycle. He will not pick Hagel or Lugar as his Def Sec or any other candidate post. This kind of thing gets said almost every election cycle, and every time it comes to nothing. Remember the 2004 speculation that Kerry might ask John McCain to be his VP?

    If you want to get worked up about other positions he’s taken or his record, that’s good. But this Hagel stuff is just a rumor and a flimsy one at that.

    • Also...

      Obama’s probably got someone already lined up for the job. My money’s on Anthony Zinni, maybe Wes Clark.

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