New VP speculation thread: Is it Bayh?

Barack Obama’s got a layover in Indiana tonight, and some people expect him to select Senator Evan Bayh as his running mate tonight or tomorrow.

I’m not crazy about Bayh as a vice presidential candidate. On the plus side, he’s a former governor and current senator from a red state Obama is making a play for. (Kerry states plus Iowa, New Mexico and Indiana would put Obama past 270.) Also, Bayh backed Hillary Clinton for president, so picking him would be a gesture toward uniting the party.

On the minus side, Bayh is not a great speaker and wouldn’t be the best surrogate. Also, his voting record isn’t very progressive, and I’m not just talking about “values” issues; he voted for George Bush’s tax cuts. Maybe that’s what a Democrat representing Indiana has to do, but if Obama wins, his VP could be the front-runner for the Democratic nomination in 2016. Bayh isn’t the kind of politician I’d like to see get a leg up in the next competitive Democratic presidential primary.

UPDATE: Forgot to mention that we most likely give up a Senate seat if Bayh becomes vice president (unless Democrat Jill Long Thompson pulls of an upset in the Indiana gubernatorial race). If Bayh were an outstanding choice for VP, it might be worth giving up a Senate seat, but that’s not the situation at hand.

If you think I’m too tough on the guy, check out Matt Stoller as he labels Bayh “A Democratic Dan Quayle.”

Jeralyn at Talk Left went over other aspects of Bayh’s record and observed:

Whoever Obama picks, you can be sure polling had a huge amount to do with it. That means he will go for the choice that is most palatable to middle America — not to progressives. We are probably considered “fringe voters”, one step short of being outlaws by any national presidential campaign. They want the heartland.

So the question is, who’s the best centrist for Obama? Bayh seems pretty bland, like mayonnaise. At least he doesn’t go around introducing major, comprehensive tough on crime bills every year. Talk about lowering one’s expectations…..It’s like that game people play at kids’ birthday parties where you have to slide under the bar that gets lowered with every contestant. I just hope we’re not all on the floor by the time November rolls around. Then again, better on the floor than underground, which is where we’ll be if the Republicans win again.

UPDATE: Here are a few views of Bayh’s voting record.

Progressive Punch ranks him in the 40s among the 100 senators on most issue fields. That means Bayh is among the more conservative members of the Democratic caucus in the Senate.

Project Vote Smart lists his votes on numerous individual bills.

And here Project Vote Smart lists Bayh’s ratings from a bunch of different interest groups.

SECOND UPDATE: I forgot to mention that in the past two years Bayh has voted with progressives about 68 percent of the time “when the chips are down,” according to Progressive Punch. The methodology behind the “chips are down” calculations is explained here.

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  • Give Bayh a Chance

    Fact is…if you compare Al Gore in 1992 to Evan Bayh in 2008–the similarities are eerie.

    Political legacies.

    Both won back their fathers’ political seats–Bayh in the Senate, Gore in the House.

    Moderates.

    Both Bayh and Gore held moderate positions during their times in office. Gore, who once described himself as a “raging moderate”, voted against government funding of abortion, voted for a moment of silence in schools, and voted against a law banning interstate gun sales. http://findarticles.com/p/arti…

    http://www.time.com/time/print…

    Authors.

    Gore wrote Earth in the Balance in 1992; Bayh wrote From Father to Son in 2003.

    Boring.

    Both men while considered boring in public, are said to be very engaging and outgoing in private.

    Red staters.

    In 1992, Clinton/Gore carried Tennessee by just 4.65%.

    Failed runs for President.

    Gore in 1988. Bayh formed an exploratory committee in 2007, but withdrew.

    Too close to Pres. candidate’s home state

    Clinton/Gore was an Arkansas/Tennesee ticket, Obama/Bayh would be an Illinois/Indiana ticket.

    If the blogosphere had existed in 2008 they would be saying the exact same things about Al Gore as they’re saying about Evan Bayh right now. But politicians grow and change. They evolve. Gore’s career can be traced along a line of increasing liberalism that started when he was a moderate Congressman like Bayh and ended with him as the progressive vanguard he is today.

    Give Bayh the same chance.

    • one can only hope

      that Evan Bayh’s conservative tendencies would lessen if he were freed from the burden of representing one relatively conservative state.

  • Wonder what happened...

    What happened? It seemed like all the cards were in place for Bayh…

    My guess is either; A: The Obama team was testing the waters and didn’t like the reaction they got to Bayh. or B: Everyone just got carried away and made a mountain out of a molehill.

    One thing I can say for sure, if Obama picks Bayh–McCain will pick Paulenty. Paulenty is almost a Republican mirror image of Bayh.

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