Thoughts on Hillary Clinton's vice presidential short list

Who’s up for a thread about Hillary Clinton’s potential running mates? Jeff Zeleny and Dan Merica reported for CNN yesterday that Clinton has a short list of “fewer than five” candidates for vice president. Possible names include: U.S. Senator and former Virginia Governor Tim Kaine, Senator Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts, Senator Sherrod Brown of Ohio, U.S. Labor Secretary Tom Perez, U.S. Secretary of Agriculture and former Iowa Governor Tom Vilsack.

Citing unnamed “Democrats close to the process,” Zeleny and Merica say Housing and Urban Development Secretary Julian Castro and U.S. Representative Xavier Beccera of California “are no longer thought to be in serious contention.”

Clinton won’t announce her choice until after the Republican National Convention in Cleveland.

Clinton’s top considerations, aides tell CNN, is someone who does not harm her chances against [Donald] Trump, a partner who gets along well with her and is credible at stepping into the presidency should anything happen. Economic issues and an ability to raise money for the campaign are also key attributes.

At the Carroll Daily Times Herald, Douglas Burns made the case for Vilsack, who exhibits “towering competence” and “intellectually and administratively inhabits the intersection of Washington and Main Street in a way few have.” A family friend has similarly described Vilsack as a “towering figure” compared to most of the political appointees he has observed in many years of work for the federal government, including in the USDA and the Justice Department.

I don’t expect Clinton to choose Vilsack, but I would much prefer him to Kaine. Vilsack hasn’t fought every progressive fight, but he’s less conservative than Kaine and has a tremendous grasp of public policy. No one could say he’s not qualified to be president if need be. Zeleny and Merica cite several points in Kaine’s favor: fluency in Spanish, making him a good “asset attacking Trump in Spanish-language media”; strong fundraising experience as a former Democratic National Committee chair; and no “red flags” when vetted as a possible running mate for Barack Obama in 2008. For any governing position, I’ll take a wonk like Vilsack every day of the week and twice on Sundays.

Warren, the preferred candidate of most Bernie Sanders supporters, has never struck me as a likely choice for Clinton. I think she can do more valuable work in the Senate, especially if Trump drags down enough GOP senators to put Democrats in control of the chamber, which is quite possible. I’ve heard good things about Perez, but he doesn’t have high name recognition in any swing state. Brown is a strong progressive, among the best in the Senate, but if he became vice president, Republican Governor John Kasich would be able to select his replacement.

Who would you like to see on a ticket with Clinton, and who do you expect the nominee to choose? Spin your own scenarios in this thread.

On a related note, yesterday the Commission on Presidential Debates announced the format for the three presidential debates (scheduled for September 26, October 9, and October 19) and the vice presidential debate (scheduled for October 4). I’ve enclosed the full news release below.

The Clinton-Trump debates will surely get sky-high ratings. Trump showed during the GOP primary season that he has a knack for insulting his opponents, but after watching part of Clinton’s July 6 speech in front of Trump’s abandoned Atlantic City casino, I suspect she will do a better job of baiting him than vice versa. Saying he would bankrupt the country like he has done in his businesses seems like a great way to get under his skin.

P.S.- Loved Clinton’s line about New Jersey Governor Chris Christie, a possible running mate for Trump: “If your governor would start doing his job instead of following Donald Trump around, holding his coat, than maybe we could get New Jersey’s economy running again.”

July 7 press release:

The nonpartisan, nonprofit Commission on Presidential Debates (CPD) today announced the formats for the three presidential and one vice presidential general election debates it will sponsor this fall.

The formats for the 90-minute debates are designed to facilitate in-depth discussion of the leading issues facing the nation.

First presidential debate (September 26, 2016, Wright State University, Dayton, OH)

The debate will be divided into six time segments of approximately 15 minutes each on major topics to be selected by the moderator and announced at least one week before the debate.

The moderator will open each segment with a question, after which each candidate will have two minutes to respond. Candidates will then have an opportunity to respond to each other. The moderator will use the balance of the time in the segment for a deeper discussion of the topic.

Vice presidential debate (October 4, 2016, Longwood University, Farmville, VA)

The debate will be divided into nine time segments of approximately 10 minutes each. The moderator will ask an opening question, after which each candidate will have two minutes to respond. The moderator will use the balance of the time in the segment for a deeper discussion of the topic.

Second presidential debate (October 9, 2016, Washington University in St. Louis, St. Louis, MO)

The second presidential debate will take the form of a town meeting, in which half of the questions will be posed directly by citizen participants and the other half will be posed by the moderator based on topics of broad public interest as reflected in social media and other sources. The candidates will have two minutes to respond and there will be an additional minute for the moderator to facilitate further discussion. The town meeting participants will be uncommitted voters selected by the Gallup Organization.

Third presidential debate (October 19, 2016, University of Nevada-Las Vegas, Las Vegas, NV)

The format for the debate will be identical to the first presidential debate.

All debates will be moderated by a single individual and will run from 9:00-10:30 p.m. Eastern Time without commercial breaks. As always, the moderators alone will select the questions to be asked, which are not known to the CPD or to the candidates. The moderators will have the ability both to extend the segments and to ensure that the candidates have equal speaking time. While the focus will properly be on the candidates, the moderator will regulate the conversation so that thoughtful and substantive exchanges occur. The CPD is in discussion with technology and civic groups that will provide data to the moderators to assist them in identifying the subjects that are most important to the public.

This year’s debates will build on the successful 2012 debate formats which introduced longer segments, allowing the candidates to focus on critical issues. “The CPD has a simple mission, to ensure that presidential debates help the public learn about the positions of the leading candidates for president and vice president,” CPD Co-Chairs Frank J. Fahrenkopf, Jr. and Michael D. McCurry said. “These formats will allow an in-depth exploration of the major topics in this year’s election.”

In the fall of 2015, the CPD announced the dates and venues and its 2016 Nonpartisan Candidate Selection Criteria. Under the criteria, in addition to being constitutionally eligible, candidates must:

Appear on a sufficient number of state ballots to have a mathematical chance of winning a majority vote in the Electoral College.
Have a level of support of at least 15 percent of the national electorate as determined by five selected national public opinion polling organizations, using the average of those organizations’ most recently publicly-reported results at the time of the determination.
The CPD will select and announce moderators later this summer.

In September, the CPD will announce an unprecedented effort to engage the American public in substantive conversations before, between and after the debates. The increased use of technology to consume news presents an opportunity to amplify and enhance the debates. Over the last two years, the CPD has met with more than 40 technology, academic and media organizations to discuss these trends and to identify best practices to engage the electorate, particularly young people, in the political conversation. Some of these initiatives are already underway, such as College Debate 2016, which is building a social conversation among students on college campuses across the country, and Join the Debates, a partnership to help teachers generate discussion in the classroom.

“The public would like to take part in a civil discussion, both online and in-person,” McCurry and Fahrenkopf said. “Our goal is to make the tools available so that the debates can reach all Americans, particularly those who will be voting for the first time.”

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  • Agree with you

    Kaine is a colorless ConservaDem–not really a turnout machine. I notice that Vilsack appeared on the list after Kaine’s political gift problem surfaced. At least if Kaine was picked, McAuliffe would replace him with another corporate-friendly Democrat that the Clintons approve of. Castro’s fumbling at HHS and the mass exodus of Hispanics away from Trump probably took him off the list. Clinton will have the Hispanic vote no matter who is on the ticket. Perez is an intellectual heavyweight but an unknown, with no political experience of his own. Warren is a head fake to get Sanders supporters excited. I will eat my hat without salt if Clinton picks her. Both Warren and Brown would create a Republican Senator, so the logic of either of them escapes me. Janet Napolitano and Kathleen Sibelius were terrible picks from that standpoint, and look at Arizona and Kansas now.

    Vilsack would be a good choice. He is an accomplished politician and has done a competent job running a state and a gigantic federal agency. He is not the most charismatic choice, but he has charm. He has had no whisper of anything untoward in his past, he can take on whoever Trumpy picks in a debate. He communicates seriousness and intelligence, so people could see him as President if something happened to Clinton. He is not nearly as progressive as I would like, but then neither is Clinton. She has a good relationship with him. Iowa would be more likely to go solidly blue, and he would probably be an asset in other agricultural states.

  • Brown

    Comment I kinda like the Brown pick. True, the Senate thing is a problem, but picking Brown might put Ohio solidly in the Clinton column. That would sew it up for HRC.

    The downside to Vilsack is he is a wonk and not an attack dog. I don’t see him effectively going red meat with Trump and/or his VP pick.

    But the upside to THAT is that TV is a serious and steady centrist, a marked contrast to Trump et al. and would give potential crossovers another box to check to justify a vote for HRC.

  • karl-schilling

    One reason to favor Warren would be the fact that as soon as Hillary is elected the Republicans will want to impeach her. Having Elizabeth Warren as Vice President would prevent that.

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