Iowa sports announcer: "As Trump would say, go back where they came from"

A northern Iowa radio station has fired two employees for making “insensitive, thoughtless and degrading” comments about high school basketball players with Latino-sounding names. In a statement published this morning, KIOW-FM Radio in Forest City (Winnebago County) condemned the “deplorable” remarks by announcer Orin Harris and an unidentified woman before a recent boys basketball game between Forest City and Eagle Grove (Wright County). UPDATE: KIMT reported that the woman was board operator Holly Jane Kusserow-Smidt.

Eagle Grove resident Betty Jo Willard posted what she rightly called the “absolutely appalling!!” clip on Facebook on December 3. The banter illustrates how President Donald Trump has emboldened bigots across the country to express racist views.

The comments were “broadcast on The Cube, an online video service many local high schools use,” before the November 28 game, KIMT reported this morning.

My partial transcript, from the video Willard shared.

About 20 seconds in, Harris named three Eagle Grove players whose surnames suggested Latino heritage.

Harris: They have a lot of–apparently–

Kusserow-Smidt: Español people.

Harris: Español people in Eagle Grove.

Kusserow-Smidt: Gee, I wonder why that is.

Harris: I wonder why.

Kusserow-Smidt: But the latest there is that they’re just going to gradually come into town. Yeah, right.

Harris: Yeah, uh huh.

Kusserow-Smidt: Uh huh.

Harris: Gradually work their way in.

Kusserow-Smidt: Gradually work their way in. So who are these people again?

Harris: Yeah. Who are they? Oh, you want to know the names? [repeats names of three Eagle Grove basketball players]

Kusserow-Smidt: Well, they sound like they’ve been here a while, given the first names.

Harris: Yeah, I think they’ve been there. [repeats and spells one of the surnames] Then there’s [names another player]–sounds like he’s not a foreigner. Could be, though.

Kusserow-Smidt: Yeah.

Harris: They’re all foreigners.

Kusserow-Smidt: Exactly–all foreigners! [laughs]

Harris: Yeah–as Trump would say, go back where they came from.

Kusserow-Smidt: Well, some would say that, yeah. Some days I feel like that too.

Harris: Yeah.

The video quickly went viral on Facebook, reaching more than 100,000 views in less than twelve hours. KIOW management posted the following statement online this morning:

On Tuesday, November 28th, two employees of KIOW made comments that were insensitive, thoughtless and degrading to others. These comments were deplorable, and the staff and management of KIOW in no way condones or supports these comments.

These comments never aired on KIOW Radio. They did, however, appear on a video feed that appeared on a school website.

That night when we learned of these comments, we were in contact with the Eagle Grove School District and gathered information about the incident. On Thursday morning, November 30, a letter of apology was sent to school officials, along with details of our actions in regards to the two employees involved.

As a result, one employee was fired from her position with the station, and the other was placed on indefinite suspension.

KIOW Radio has a long history of promoting and supporting student athletes, coaches and schools. As a company, we take great pride in spotlighting the great efforts of our local citizens, schools and communities, and we will demand that all company employees adhere to this policy.

The remarks by Harris were just as bad as his colleague’s, if not worse. Why was he merely suspended rather than fired? Perhaps he was enjoying a perk of being a beloved sports announcer; KIMT identified Harris as “a longtime voice of Forest City athletics.”

Presumably others had the same question, because KIOW updated its statement about an hour ago to clarify, “As a result, both employees have been fired from their positions with the station.”

In a December 4 statement, Eagle Grove superintendent Jess Toliver confirmed that the radio station had apologized to his school district. He added, “we expect our athletes, students and community to be treated with respect no matter where they go. The kids were aware of it, the people listening to The Cube were aware of it.” Toliver also noted “the positives of diversity. Without diversity, we have a lot less students, we aren’t as vibrant. Diversity has been something that has saved our community.”

Latino residents have helped keep schools open in many Iowa towns, since the median age of our state’s Latino population (23.5) is substantially younger than the median age of Iowa’s entire population (38.0). The latest available data show that about 11.3 percent of Wright County residents are Latino, as of 2016. Nearby Winnebago County was only about 4.3 percent Latino. Eagle Grove school officials expect “rapid, increasing enrollment” following construction of a large Prestage pork processing plant. The meatpacking industry has contributed to Latino population growth in many rural Iowa counties.

What happened in Forest City wasn’t the first time Iowa kids had to hear racist comments during a high school athletics event, and it probably won’t be the last. But here’s hoping school leaders across the state will seize this teachable moment to remind students, staff, and supporters that bigotry is never acceptable–neither within a community, nor directed toward sports rivals.

UPDATE: Speaking to KIMT on December 4, Harris said he feels “absolutely terrible”: “I’m sorry. I’ve disappointed all my family and friends.” Board operator Kusserow-Smidt “has been placed on administrative leave by the Forest City School District, where she is a teacher.” A statement from the school district apologized “that the inappropriate conversation was streamed over The Cube” and noted, “The communication that took place during this broadcast is inconsistent with the policies and values of Forest City Schools. We expect all staff to hold the same values that we teach in our education system every day.”

P.S.- The casually racist way Harris and his colleague discussed the demographics of Eagle Grove reminded me of this recent article by Harvard Professor Ryan Enos. His research found signs of more “racially motivated voting” in 2016 in areas with a certain “social geography.”

It is the presence of a group that is proximate, yet segregated — close but far — that precipitates the politics of division. Sadly, it is when groups become close in space that they also can become politically, social, and psychologically divided, so long as also they remain segregated. This kind of relationship, the research shows, causes us to hold negative and racist attitudes about the other group: to not want to share with the other group, and, when it comes to politics, to vote against the candidate we think represents that group — or for the demagogues who attack them.

And this very situation — think a racially diverse central city and homogeneously white suburbs or an enclave full of newly arrived immigrants — is a geographic reality for most Americans. […]

You might assume that demographic change, and the proximity of different groups, would by itself breed familiarity. It turns out that’s true only in the rare cases in which those groups are integrated. When spatial patterns other than integration develop, diversity can drive us apart.

Consider how the 2016 election played out. Most white voters supported Trump and were at least willing to tolerate his xenophobic rhetoric, but his support disproportionately came from those who lived in places where the Latino population had rapidly expanded — whose social geography had changed. Many of these places experiencing a Latino boom were in states, such as Pennsylvania, crucial to Trump’s Electoral College victory. For example, in Luzerne County, Pennsylvania, where the Hispanic population grew by almost 500 percent in the last 20 years, Trump’s vote increased by over 11 percentage points from Romney in 2012, taking it from a blue to a red county.

LATER UPDATE: One of the Eagle Grove basketball players, Nikolas Padilla, responded with tremendous grace.

LATER UPDATE: The Forest City School Board accepted Kusserow-Smidt’s resignation and approved an early retirement package for her, Steve Bohnel and Ashley Miller reported for the Mason City Globe-Gazette on December 8. In her resignation letter, Kusserow-Smidt said she had planned to retire at the end of the current school year, her 43rd working for the district. She said she was “deeply saddened” to finish her career this way.

I apologize to the Board members, administration, the students and community of Forest City and the students and community of Eagle Grove for my recent actions. The comments I made were inappropriate and not a true reflection of who I am or what I believe. I had no idea a private conversation would become a public issue. I am sorry for the unnecessary stress and negative publicity that has resulted from the private conversation. I sincerely hope that the students and communities affected can positively move forward.

In these doesn’t-reflect-who-I-am apologies, people never explain why they would say such hateful things to anyone, even in private, if the comments weren’t consistent with their views.

LATE UPDATE: The Des Moines Register’s John Naughton reported, “Boys’ and girls’ basketball players and cheerleaders from Forest City and Eagle Grove stood in alternating positions and held hands on the court during the National Anthem” before teams from the two schools played against each other on January 9. “After the games were played, students ate pizza together. KIOW provided the food.”

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  • Oh Please..

    Spare me the shock over this incident!
    First, let’s thank Ms. Willard for exposing this ‘soft-core bigotry’ hiding in plain sight. All of you here know (but may not want to openly acknowledge) that the same kind of talk happens all the time on WHO–on a daily basis. I don’t care whether its Van and Bonnie with their morning happy talk, chortling Conway in the afternoon not to mention the obvious Limbaugh and Hannity.
    The comments on KIOW were what you do on Iowa radio today if you want to be edgy and relevant. Those commentators were probably shocked to hear of their dismissal–especially since they’ve heard successful people in their field say a lot worse–and be rewarded.
    When your president is openly racist, his supporters (and the media that sell advertising to them) begin the slow, sickening slide into normalizing what Betty Jo just held up to our ears to hear.
    The casual, almost off-handed comments you heard on KIOW, happen almost daily on WHO. My liberal/dem/creative associates tell me they almost never listen to it and all that tells me is that we’re ignoring one of the primary reasons that connecting with Reps/cons is so difficult.
    …and please don’t forget this:
    Those kids also may have teachers who may feel the same way as those radio commentators. With that kind of bigotry on offer on Iowa’s small town airwaves, what do you think the effect is on young teachers with little experience dealing with diverse populations?

    • it turns out

      that the woman is a teacher. Depressing.

      • Sad but not surprised

        It’s hard to know what to say here without broad brushing matters. Iowa has welcomed thousands of immigrants to our state over the past 50 years. Robert Ray became legendary for his outreach after the Viet Nam War. Iowans distinguished themselves with their humanity, empathy and support. That strand continues today in support for those who come here from Africa, the Middle East, Asia, and, of course Central and South America. A large part of “Iowa Nice” comes from a well-earned reputation of those days.
        As I said in my original comments, what we heard from that ‘teacher’ and that sports commentator, should chill you because what it means is that our public airwaves can now abused with reckless, or worse, sanctioned racist speech.
        I see the effects of teachers culturally insensitive to their students desire to learn. Even more troubling was her (a teacher right?) forceful marking of the players as foreigners. To drop that comment meant that a. she felt very comfortable in her home territory and b. she’d heard it enough in her industry that she was just basically using vernacular 2017. Trumpspeak.
        Students encountering teachers with this sort of bias are, in my opinion, just as endangered as those at risk from sexual exploitation. In both cases you have a young person whose self image will probably be negatively affected because one who was supposed to provide guidance in fact violated a trust placed in them by the student, their family and by a community that I hope still believes that if we invite the world to come to Iowa, we at least owe them a decent opportunity to provide their families something better than that the cheap, low class comments on offer from these local yokels, WHO, and of course DJtrump.

  • One of the consequences

    Now some parents may have to explain to their third-graders why their teacher is not going to be in the classroom for awhile, and maybe not ever again.